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Post by jimpope on Dec 3, 2007 16:50:33 GMT -5
John, willie, Ron
The head judge at the American Open said as long as your head is touching the bench at the time the signals are given its okay.....
Does the head have to be in contact with the bench from the "start" signal to the "rack it "signal? Or does it have to be in contact with at the time you get the three signals start,press, and rack it?
I was always under the impression that the head had to stay in contact with the bench at all time during the lift. Am I wrong in thinking this way?
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Post by "ronnybench" on Dec 3, 2007 17:51:30 GMT -5
From the start command to the rack command. If your head is not in touch with the bench then you will not receive the start command.
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Post by jimpope on Dec 3, 2007 18:36:55 GMT -5
THIS WAS POSTED BY THE HEAD JUDGES ON THE BENCH........
If his head came up on the descent, it's Ok as long as it's down to get the press signal.
I did give him the press signal and he got three white lights, so obviously none of the three referees saw
any violation.
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Post by mdpowerlifting on Dec 3, 2007 20:05:05 GMT -5
I understand the rule to state that the head must remain in contact with the bench throughout the performance of the lift.
At the rules briefing for the 198 and 220's (the American Open), Johnny Graham stated that not only had the head had to remain on the bench, but the feet must remain flat and the shoulders and butt must remain flat too.
Jim
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Post by jimpope on Dec 3, 2007 21:16:13 GMT -5
Ron and Jim,
I totally agree with both of you but that statement is messed up......do you agree?
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Post by "ronnybench" on Dec 3, 2007 23:07:54 GMT -5
It is definitely contrary to the rule as I undersyand it.
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Post by mdpowerlifting on Dec 4, 2007 11:12:16 GMT -5
The statement is out of line with what is stated in the rules.
I think it is a case where either the person did not understand the rule or is not up-to-date with the rules. I have to believe it is the latter.
When I'm asked a question concerning the rules, I often refer to the rule book before replying. Often it is because I either have not been clear on something in a previous decision or I have made a mistake. In having someone question what I've done, always sends an alarm that signals that my next answer better be correct. One can never be too sure and it makes a mess of things when they're not certain of what they're saying.
Jim
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Post by John Shifflett on Dec 4, 2007 12:20:08 GMT -5
My understanding is that the head must be down during the entire lift. The USAPL does not have a current rulebook other than the IPF rulebook. There has been so many changes the past two-three years it is a nightmare trying to keep up with it.
The lifters get a mini rulebook with membership and it is dated 2002 with many outdated rules in it.
The dropping of early weigh in's is a killer for a meet of any size. You have 55-60 people and a 90 minute time to do you have to get openers, rack hts, check for USAPL card (sell USAPL Cards) check equipment and weigh in a little over a minute per lifter.
On the bright side it looks like both Virginia and Maryland both have great turnouts for our state meets this weekend. USAPL at the Arnolds this year. Brian Siders 2602 total at the American Open and each lift looked easy on the videos!
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Post by mdpowerlifting on Dec 4, 2007 13:56:57 GMT -5
I have to agree John.
And again, you and your folks in Virginia has once again set the standard for all in the Mid-Atlantic region. Great meets and having them scheduled far out enough so everyone can plan and train for them.
Maryland has had a good year. We've had a good number of meets by at least two different federations and a quality seminar presented by two great peopld, Matt and Sioux-z. For me, it has been exciting for the number of places I've been and people I've met. We've had a pretty good year for powerlifting here in the Free State.
I'm revved up for this weekend! There are many who are lifting in our meet this weekend who do not have cards. So more members! And along with the prospect of bigger and better at the National level for the USAPL, I hope we can keep 'em coming back.
Jim
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Post by jimpope on Dec 4, 2007 16:10:15 GMT -5
Those squats of Brian's were just "WOW". Watching that 959lbs jump up and down on his shoulders was something. I hope I can get a seat when he lifts at the Arnold Sport Festival.
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Post by John Shifflett on Dec 5, 2007 17:45:50 GMT -5
Larry Maile posts on the USAPL Board said NO head movement alowed after the start command.
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